Matthew Rothschild | Stripping Rumsfeld and Bush of Impunity | July 2005 issue
Matthew Rothschild Stripping Rumsfeld and Bush of Impunity July 2005 issue
Dear Friend:
Here's a sneak peek at the cover story I wrote for our July issue, "Stripping Rumsfeld and Bush of Impunity."
It has four startling findings:
1. Gonzales may have perjured himself in his January hearings.
2. Amnesty International USA and Human Rights Watch both say that there is "prima face evidence" that Rumsfeld committed war crimes for his involvement in torture policy.
3. Amnesty International USA says that there is "prima facie evidence" that Bush himself committed war crimes for same.
4. And Amnesty International USA says foreign governments should apprehend Bush and Rumsfeld and charge them with war crimes!
Please share this with as many of your friends and colleagues as possible. Feel free to distribute it far and wide.
Sincerely,
Matthew Rothschild
Editor, The Progressive
editorial@progressive.org
P.S. By the way, The Progressive is a nonprofit, legally and literally! If you could send us a tax-deductible contribution, it would help us out here, as things have suddenly gotten tight. You can do so on-line at
http://www.progressive.org/fundraise.html
I listened to talk radio while I was on the road today, which was most of the day, and Amnesty International was portrayed all day as Anti-American because of these statements issued above. I say AI is not in no way Anti-American, this administration has no idea the majority of Americans hold human rights, decent treatment of prisoners as high on their list of morals, they have no inkling of the principals behind being American is. Our founding fathers wrote us a road map to a free democracy protected by the republic and the separations in principal are the foundations of that republic, they have chipped away at daily during their time in office. Your daily mind bending to the right you get dosed out each day on talk radio is obvious to skew you into thinking as they do. They repeat over and over again statements like Amnesty International is Anti-American over and over. To mind wash you into some twisted torn logic that over looks and accepts such shameful acts our government commits as Abu Grab, CIA kidnappings and torture, Gitmo and the Koran stories. One fellow don't really care who he was, some right-wing-nut even stated the Koran belonged in the toilet, makes me sick to know there is so many stupid, un-empathetic, non-ethical people walking freely in this nation once regarded as the freest nation on earth, the protector of human rights around the world, the light of liberty. No more, no more honor, no more respect will Americans see from other nations this administration with its horrors have done our reputation grave harm. With lies on top of lies washed this nation to a pit of ignorance intolerance and backward progress for the human culture around the world. No such nation should be allowed such power, speaking of the following links. If your open to finding the truth my dear friends it is out there. If you have time to read, watch and listen it can be found.
It starts here:
http://www.reopen911.org/
https://secure.reopen911.org/catalog
http://www.tarpley.net/
Please watch the upcoming live web broadcast of our "Reopen the 9/11 Investigation" tour. Thus far, the European tour has been a great success. We've been told by many that the information given is the most thorough accounting of the 9/11 attacks to date.
The 9/11 Events will be presented in Vienna, Austria, at the Austria Center (und Konferenzzentrum Wien,) June 1-3, at 7 p.m. local time.
Mark your calendars for our live web cast!
Forum: Wednesday June 1st, 7 p.m. live, Vienna time; 10 a.m. Pacific Time; and 1 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
Forum/Presentations: Thursday 2nd, 7 p.m. live, Vienna time; 10 a.m. Pacific Time; 1 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
Video Presentation: Friday, June 3rd, 7 p.m. live, Vienna time; 10 a.m. Pacific Time; 1 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
TOUR PARTICIPANTS INCLUDE:
Barry Zwicker:
Filmmaker Barrie Zwicker, creator of "The Great Conspiracy: The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw," hails from Toronto, Canada where he was the host of a national TV show and a respected media critic. In his film, Zwicker exposes the 9/11 cover-up, which he said, became obvious to him when he saw that no air defense intervened in the two hours they had to stop the planes from crashing into the World Trade Center in New York. He saw how the Bush Administration didn't do much of anything, (Bush continued to read "My Pet Goat" to children at a school in Florida); and how there was no investigation into the crime for more than 400 days, when Kissinger, the master of many cover-ups, was initially put in charge. The 9/11 Commission Report, released years later, never addressed the most important issues of the crime. (You can purchase "The Great Conspiracy" from our online book store: https://secure.reopen911.org/catalog).
Webster Griffin Tarpley:
Webster Griffin Tarpley is an activist and historian based near Washington, DC. He is best known as the author of "George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography," (1992, reprinted 2004), which has become an underground classic since it was first posted online in October 1996. This was the first book to document the complicity of Prescott Bush, grandfather of the current tenant of the White House, in the rise of Hitler. A renowned journalist since 1972, Tarpley's most recent book is "9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in the USA," published by Progressive Press. This book contains a refutation of the 9/11 commission report, and shows how a rogue network within the US government actually concocted the September 11 events as a coup d'état, to launch a war of civilizations, the latest form of Anglo-American imperial geopolitics. (He can be reached through www.tarpley.net.)
Christopher Bollyn:
A correspondent with the American Free Press, Chris Bollyn was returning to Washington from a weekend in Vermont with his family when he passed through New York City in the early morning hours of September 11, 2001. Unable to return to Washington, the Bollyn family traveled on small roads to their home in Chicago. Bollyn immediately began writing and investigating the crimes of 9/11 and has continued his research to this day. Many key discoveries about the attacks have been uncovered through Bollyn's research.
He has also brought forth important information, previously unpublished, about the intrigue behind the sinking of the Baltic ferry Estonia (Sept. 28, 1994); as well as the devastating affects caused by the use of depleted uranium weapons by the United States armed forces.
Penny Little:
Filmmaker Penny Little is author of the new DVD "9/11: from Dust to Deceit." Little explained, when President George W. Bush came to Ground Zero two days after the 9/11 attack, he urged everyone to shop. Ironically, the expression 'Shop Till You Drop!' would have been more appropriate. In fact, the air was, as scientist Marjorie Clarke said, "Equivalent to dozens of asbestos factories, incinerators and crematoria." The White House Council on Environmental Quality changed EPA's press releases turning warnings of asbestos into reassurances. The EPA also said "The air is safe to breathe" at the World Trade Center. This information contributed to the injury and death of may NYC residents and heroes who worked at Ground Zero.
Christine Whitman, EPA administrator, and NYC Mayor Giuliani lied to New Yorkers and visitors from around the world that there were "no significant problems." Shockingly, the New York City Dept of Health told residents to clean their apartments with a wet mop or wet rag. Simply put, extremely hazardous materials became airborne when the World Trade Center disintegrated and has posed, and continues to pose, a serious health threat to people who live and work in the downtown area, not just ground Zero.
Eric Hufschmid:
Erich Hufschmid is the author of "Painful Questions: An Analysis of the September 11th Attacks" and the DVD "Painful Deceptions." He's one of the first great 9/11 Skeptics, and remains a staunch advocate for discovering the truth behind the 9/11 attacks whatever it may be. Among other questions, Hufschmid wonders how a passenger plane could have hit the pentagon and left an impression approximately half its size.
Philip J. Berg, Esquire:
After conducting research with a team of experts on the attacks on the Pentagon and the Twin Towers, Philip Berg and his team uncovered some very disturbing facts that cannot be reconciled with the information provided by the U.S. government and media. Berg has a RICO Act [Racketeer Influenced & Corrupt Organizations] lawsuit pending against President Bush, Vice President Cheney and 54 other defendants for: 1) foreknowledge of 9/11; 2) failure to warn; 3) failure to prevent; and cover-up.
At a Press Conference in Amsterdam on May 18th, attorney Berg stated, "Bush and his cronies either made 9/11 happen or let it happen." Berg continued, "It is very difficult for many to believe that the U.S. government could be involved. However, I draw your attention to 'Operation Northwoods,' a 1962 documented plan that has now been declassified, in which the joint Chiefs of Staff of the U.S. military called for the military to destroy American property and to injure and kill American citizens on airplanes, blaming it on Cuba, in order to win support for a war against Cuba. President John F. Kennedy said 'No.' But, if you change the words from Cuba to Iraq, you have the same situation."
Berg concluded: "I know many of you recall Golfer Payne Stewart. His plane was off course and fighter jets were called out to check on Stewart's plane -- as fighter jets did 62 times in the year prior to 9/11. They saw no evidence of life and followed it to South Dakota, where it crashed. Likewise just a week ago, on May 11, 2005, when a small plane wandered off course toward the White House, it was intercepted within minutes by fighter planes. Now, question: Where were the fighter jets on 9/11?"
William Rodriguez:
Rodriguez is a 9/11 hero who rescued many victims from the WTC, where he was a janitor in the North Tower. He accompanied firemen up the fire-tower and let them onto the floors with a master key. For his acts of heroism, President Bush honored Rodriguez at the White House.
Later, however, Rodriguez realized that the "official" story was a lie. Rodriguez heard "explosions" in the North Tower before the building fell, confirming the 2+ Richter scale seismic recordings prior to the fall of each tower. Rodriguez was the last person out of the North Tower and is alive today because he dove under a fire truck. Like thousands of others, he still suffers from health problems brought on by the conditions at the WTC (disproving another Bush administration claim: EPA Administrator Christy Todd Whitman came to the WTC site on 9/13/01 and said all was well).
Jimmy Walter--the tour's sponsor and organizer, together with this acclaimed panel of scientists, filmmakers, and journalists--is currently on tour through major cities in Europe for panel discussions of the 9/11 attacks. The aim of the tour is to point out new non-truths with regard to the investigation as spread by the media directly after the attacks, and to raise awareness about the topic and plan to launch a "true" 9/11 investigation.
This is just a little taste of what you will see when you tune in and watch the event on June 1, 2, and 3!
Also, we have added a new location to our Rome tour! We will be in Rome, Italy, in June. See our homepage for more information: http://www.reopen911.org.
A Quote from an audience member: "These people are great, I wasn't convinced until I saw them in The Netherlands."
WHAT"S NEW:
New Screen Saver!
Also, we have a new Screen Saver! It's a tribute to the fallen and another way to remind yourself and others that we need to demand the truth behind the 9/11 attacks. You can download the screen saver here: http://www.reopen911.org
Free Film:
Remember you can request your own free copy, and have your friends request their own copy of "Confronting the Evidence: A Call to Reopen the 9/11 Investigation" on our web site: http://www.reopen911.org/freedvd.php You are encouraged to share this information.
New Translations:
Our international community continues to grow, as we have now translated the site into other languages! Not everything has been translated yet - it is a huge job with many, many words, phrases, colloquialisms and pages. However you can share the site to friends that speak:
Chinese http://www.Reopen911.org.cn
Dutch http://www.Reopen911.nl
English (UK) http://www.Reopen911.org.uk
French http://www.Reopen911.be
German http://www.Reopen911.de
Japanese http://www.Reopen911.jp
Russian http://www.Reopen911.ru
Spanish http://www.Reopen911.com.es
Sign the Petition!
Please remember to sign, and send your friends to the Petition page! We still need you to help strengthen our petition. We have had more than 5,000 signers; and every signature makes us one step stronger: https://secure.reopen911.org/petition.php.
Volunteer with Us:
After signing, please consider becoming a volunteer. You can become a volunteer at this link:
https://secure.reopen911.org/get_involved.php.
Sincerely, Jimmy Walter and the Staff of Reopen911.org
Just as the Bush administration justifies taking your liberties, human rights negations, torture, WAR it starts way back there, that dark day in America when our president select ignored the news america was being attacked, when Chaney preset our defenses into war games to confuse, and minion workers destroyed the world trade center, the pentagon and murdered near 3000 American citizens. Our own president and his men are murders, mass murderers, murder for profit of themselves, family, friends and associates.
Wonder
Dear Friend:
Here's a sneak peek at the cover story I wrote for our July issue, "Stripping Rumsfeld and Bush of Impunity."
It has four startling findings:
1. Gonzales may have perjured himself in his January hearings.
2. Amnesty International USA and Human Rights Watch both say that there is "prima face evidence" that Rumsfeld committed war crimes for his involvement in torture policy.
3. Amnesty International USA says that there is "prima facie evidence" that Bush himself committed war crimes for same.
4. And Amnesty International USA says foreign governments should apprehend Bush and Rumsfeld and charge them with war crimes!
Please share this with as many of your friends and colleagues as possible. Feel free to distribute it far and wide.
Sincerely,
Matthew Rothschild
Editor, The Progressive
editorial@progressive.org
P.S. By the way, The Progressive is a nonprofit, legally and literally! If you could send us a tax-deductible contribution, it would help us out here, as things have suddenly gotten tight. You can do so on-line at
http://www.progressive.org/fundraise.html
I listened to talk radio while I was on the road today, which was most of the day, and Amnesty International was portrayed all day as Anti-American because of these statements issued above. I say AI is not in no way Anti-American, this administration has no idea the majority of Americans hold human rights, decent treatment of prisoners as high on their list of morals, they have no inkling of the principals behind being American is. Our founding fathers wrote us a road map to a free democracy protected by the republic and the separations in principal are the foundations of that republic, they have chipped away at daily during their time in office. Your daily mind bending to the right you get dosed out each day on talk radio is obvious to skew you into thinking as they do. They repeat over and over again statements like Amnesty International is Anti-American over and over. To mind wash you into some twisted torn logic that over looks and accepts such shameful acts our government commits as Abu Grab, CIA kidnappings and torture, Gitmo and the Koran stories. One fellow don't really care who he was, some right-wing-nut even stated the Koran belonged in the toilet, makes me sick to know there is so many stupid, un-empathetic, non-ethical people walking freely in this nation once regarded as the freest nation on earth, the protector of human rights around the world, the light of liberty. No more, no more honor, no more respect will Americans see from other nations this administration with its horrors have done our reputation grave harm. With lies on top of lies washed this nation to a pit of ignorance intolerance and backward progress for the human culture around the world. No such nation should be allowed such power, speaking of the following links. If your open to finding the truth my dear friends it is out there. If you have time to read, watch and listen it can be found.
It starts here:
http://www.reopen911.org/
https://secure.reopen911.org/catalog
http://www.tarpley.net/
Please watch the upcoming live web broadcast of our "Reopen the 9/11 Investigation" tour. Thus far, the European tour has been a great success. We've been told by many that the information given is the most thorough accounting of the 9/11 attacks to date.
The 9/11 Events will be presented in Vienna, Austria, at the Austria Center (und Konferenzzentrum Wien,) June 1-3, at 7 p.m. local time.
Mark your calendars for our live web cast!
Forum: Wednesday June 1st, 7 p.m. live, Vienna time; 10 a.m. Pacific Time; and 1 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
Forum/Presentations: Thursday 2nd, 7 p.m. live, Vienna time; 10 a.m. Pacific Time; 1 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
Video Presentation: Friday, June 3rd, 7 p.m. live, Vienna time; 10 a.m. Pacific Time; 1 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
TOUR PARTICIPANTS INCLUDE:
Barry Zwicker:
Filmmaker Barrie Zwicker, creator of "The Great Conspiracy: The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw," hails from Toronto, Canada where he was the host of a national TV show and a respected media critic. In his film, Zwicker exposes the 9/11 cover-up, which he said, became obvious to him when he saw that no air defense intervened in the two hours they had to stop the planes from crashing into the World Trade Center in New York. He saw how the Bush Administration didn't do much of anything, (Bush continued to read "My Pet Goat" to children at a school in Florida); and how there was no investigation into the crime for more than 400 days, when Kissinger, the master of many cover-ups, was initially put in charge. The 9/11 Commission Report, released years later, never addressed the most important issues of the crime. (You can purchase "The Great Conspiracy" from our online book store: https://secure.reopen911.org/catalog).
Webster Griffin Tarpley:
Webster Griffin Tarpley is an activist and historian based near Washington, DC. He is best known as the author of "George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography," (1992, reprinted 2004), which has become an underground classic since it was first posted online in October 1996. This was the first book to document the complicity of Prescott Bush, grandfather of the current tenant of the White House, in the rise of Hitler. A renowned journalist since 1972, Tarpley's most recent book is "9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in the USA," published by Progressive Press. This book contains a refutation of the 9/11 commission report, and shows how a rogue network within the US government actually concocted the September 11 events as a coup d'état, to launch a war of civilizations, the latest form of Anglo-American imperial geopolitics. (He can be reached through www.tarpley.net.)
Christopher Bollyn:
A correspondent with the American Free Press, Chris Bollyn was returning to Washington from a weekend in Vermont with his family when he passed through New York City in the early morning hours of September 11, 2001. Unable to return to Washington, the Bollyn family traveled on small roads to their home in Chicago. Bollyn immediately began writing and investigating the crimes of 9/11 and has continued his research to this day. Many key discoveries about the attacks have been uncovered through Bollyn's research.
He has also brought forth important information, previously unpublished, about the intrigue behind the sinking of the Baltic ferry Estonia (Sept. 28, 1994); as well as the devastating affects caused by the use of depleted uranium weapons by the United States armed forces.
Penny Little:
Filmmaker Penny Little is author of the new DVD "9/11: from Dust to Deceit." Little explained, when President George W. Bush came to Ground Zero two days after the 9/11 attack, he urged everyone to shop. Ironically, the expression 'Shop Till You Drop!' would have been more appropriate. In fact, the air was, as scientist Marjorie Clarke said, "Equivalent to dozens of asbestos factories, incinerators and crematoria." The White House Council on Environmental Quality changed EPA's press releases turning warnings of asbestos into reassurances. The EPA also said "The air is safe to breathe" at the World Trade Center. This information contributed to the injury and death of may NYC residents and heroes who worked at Ground Zero.
Christine Whitman, EPA administrator, and NYC Mayor Giuliani lied to New Yorkers and visitors from around the world that there were "no significant problems." Shockingly, the New York City Dept of Health told residents to clean their apartments with a wet mop or wet rag. Simply put, extremely hazardous materials became airborne when the World Trade Center disintegrated and has posed, and continues to pose, a serious health threat to people who live and work in the downtown area, not just ground Zero.
Eric Hufschmid:
Erich Hufschmid is the author of "Painful Questions: An Analysis of the September 11th Attacks" and the DVD "Painful Deceptions." He's one of the first great 9/11 Skeptics, and remains a staunch advocate for discovering the truth behind the 9/11 attacks whatever it may be. Among other questions, Hufschmid wonders how a passenger plane could have hit the pentagon and left an impression approximately half its size.
Philip J. Berg, Esquire:
After conducting research with a team of experts on the attacks on the Pentagon and the Twin Towers, Philip Berg and his team uncovered some very disturbing facts that cannot be reconciled with the information provided by the U.S. government and media. Berg has a RICO Act [Racketeer Influenced & Corrupt Organizations] lawsuit pending against President Bush, Vice President Cheney and 54 other defendants for: 1) foreknowledge of 9/11; 2) failure to warn; 3) failure to prevent; and cover-up.
At a Press Conference in Amsterdam on May 18th, attorney Berg stated, "Bush and his cronies either made 9/11 happen or let it happen." Berg continued, "It is very difficult for many to believe that the U.S. government could be involved. However, I draw your attention to 'Operation Northwoods,' a 1962 documented plan that has now been declassified, in which the joint Chiefs of Staff of the U.S. military called for the military to destroy American property and to injure and kill American citizens on airplanes, blaming it on Cuba, in order to win support for a war against Cuba. President John F. Kennedy said 'No.' But, if you change the words from Cuba to Iraq, you have the same situation."
Berg concluded: "I know many of you recall Golfer Payne Stewart. His plane was off course and fighter jets were called out to check on Stewart's plane -- as fighter jets did 62 times in the year prior to 9/11. They saw no evidence of life and followed it to South Dakota, where it crashed. Likewise just a week ago, on May 11, 2005, when a small plane wandered off course toward the White House, it was intercepted within minutes by fighter planes. Now, question: Where were the fighter jets on 9/11?"
William Rodriguez:
Rodriguez is a 9/11 hero who rescued many victims from the WTC, where he was a janitor in the North Tower. He accompanied firemen up the fire-tower and let them onto the floors with a master key. For his acts of heroism, President Bush honored Rodriguez at the White House.
Later, however, Rodriguez realized that the "official" story was a lie. Rodriguez heard "explosions" in the North Tower before the building fell, confirming the 2+ Richter scale seismic recordings prior to the fall of each tower. Rodriguez was the last person out of the North Tower and is alive today because he dove under a fire truck. Like thousands of others, he still suffers from health problems brought on by the conditions at the WTC (disproving another Bush administration claim: EPA Administrator Christy Todd Whitman came to the WTC site on 9/13/01 and said all was well).
Jimmy Walter--the tour's sponsor and organizer, together with this acclaimed panel of scientists, filmmakers, and journalists--is currently on tour through major cities in Europe for panel discussions of the 9/11 attacks. The aim of the tour is to point out new non-truths with regard to the investigation as spread by the media directly after the attacks, and to raise awareness about the topic and plan to launch a "true" 9/11 investigation.
This is just a little taste of what you will see when you tune in and watch the event on June 1, 2, and 3!
Also, we have added a new location to our Rome tour! We will be in Rome, Italy, in June. See our homepage for more information: http://www.reopen911.org.
A Quote from an audience member: "These people are great, I wasn't convinced until I saw them in The Netherlands."
WHAT"S NEW:
New Screen Saver!
Also, we have a new Screen Saver! It's a tribute to the fallen and another way to remind yourself and others that we need to demand the truth behind the 9/11 attacks. You can download the screen saver here: http://www.reopen911.org
Free Film:
Remember you can request your own free copy, and have your friends request their own copy of "Confronting the Evidence: A Call to Reopen the 9/11 Investigation" on our web site: http://www.reopen911.org/freedvd.php You are encouraged to share this information.
New Translations:
Our international community continues to grow, as we have now translated the site into other languages! Not everything has been translated yet - it is a huge job with many, many words, phrases, colloquialisms and pages. However you can share the site to friends that speak:
Chinese http://www.Reopen911.org.cn
Dutch http://www.Reopen911.nl
English (UK) http://www.Reopen911.org.uk
French http://www.Reopen911.be
German http://www.Reopen911.de
Japanese http://www.Reopen911.jp
Russian http://www.Reopen911.ru
Spanish http://www.Reopen911.com.es
Sign the Petition!
Please remember to sign, and send your friends to the Petition page! We still need you to help strengthen our petition. We have had more than 5,000 signers; and every signature makes us one step stronger: https://secure.reopen911.org/petition.php.
Volunteer with Us:
After signing, please consider becoming a volunteer. You can become a volunteer at this link:
https://secure.reopen911.org/get_involved.php.
Sincerely, Jimmy Walter and the Staff of Reopen911.org
Just as the Bush administration justifies taking your liberties, human rights negations, torture, WAR it starts way back there, that dark day in America when our president select ignored the news america was being attacked, when Chaney preset our defenses into war games to confuse, and minion workers destroyed the world trade center, the pentagon and murdered near 3000 American citizens. Our own president and his men are murders, mass murderers, murder for profit of themselves, family, friends and associates.
Wonder
posted by Wonder at 12:13 AM
1 Comments:
Andrew Sullivan's Blog: Daily Dish - May 2, 2005
http://www.andrewsullivan.com/index.php?dish_inc=archives/2005_05_01_dish_archive.html
TORTURE, AGAIN: I was struck by how weak the president's statement in his recent
press conference about torture was. Here's the quote:
"We operate within the law and we send people to countries where they say they're
not going to torture the people."
I don't think even the president can disguise the fact that he knows this formulation
is, in fact, an admission of the use of torture under the guise of a denial. Since
public and press scrutiny exposed some of the more easily-discovered atrocities,
the White House has rescinded its 2002 memo permitting torture and the military
has drawn up stricter guidelines, while scapegoating grunts for decisions made by
superiors. Revealingly, Bush still won't allow a legislative ban on CIA-deployed
torture. What has really gone on in Guantanamo is anyone's guess. Even the official
report has found disturbing patterns of abuse. Then check out this important story
on prison conditions in Uzbekistan, where we send alleged, i.e. unproven, terror
suspects. When the president's only criterion for sending suspects to foreign prisons
is that the regimes merely "say" they don't torture, and when no one (including,
presumably, a half-way informed president) doubts that torture is indeed used, isn't
the president essentialy saying: "Yes, we do use torture. You wanna make something
of it?" Actually, that is what he said. He followed his lame formulation denying
torture with the following:
"But let me say something: the United States government has an obligation to protect
the American people. It's in our country's interests to find those who would do
harm to us and get them out of harm's way [sic]. And we will do so within the law,
and we will do so in honoring our commitment not to torture people. And we expect
the countries where we send somebody to, not to torture, as well. But you bet, when
we find somebody who might do harm to the American people, we will detain them and
ask others from their country of origin to detain them. It makes sense. The American
people expect us to do that. We -- we still at war."
There's a lot of nudging and winking in that defense of torture. But a defense is
what it is.
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